tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27637632.post3622233560594658789..comments2023-03-21T15:54:12.138+00:00Comments on Acrobat: O little town of BethlehemJ-Machttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02036628587676158911noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27637632.post-87183662836563666072008-01-10T19:25:00.000+00:002008-01-10T19:25:00.000+00:00Hi.Here is a report on the BBC reporting from the ...Hi.<BR/>Here is a report on the BBC reporting from the conflict:<BR/><BR/>http://honestreporting.com/articles/45884734/critiques/new/One_Year_Analysis_The_BBC_in_2007.aspAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27637632.post-53739121689710126772008-01-07T23:22:00.000+00:002008-01-07T23:22:00.000+00:00Dear John.Thanks for your clarification. I very m...Dear John.<BR/>Thanks for your clarification. I very much agree.<BR/><BR/>OsmundAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27637632.post-9692143973270961602008-01-06T00:45:00.000+00:002008-01-06T00:45:00.000+00:00Osmund,Thanks for your comment. I hope I didn't gi...Osmund,<BR/>Thanks for your comment. I hope I didn't give the wrong impression in my post. I was just hurting for the friends I made in Bethlehem over christmas time.<BR/><BR/>Of course I support Israel and the Jewish people and I had an amazing time there this summer. I also felt the hurt from the suffering they have endured and from the threat they are still under.<BR/><BR/>It's just I saw things with my own eyes in Bethlehem that were simply wrong. It was not propoganda or media reports. I didn't come to this opinion easily and found myself arguing for Israel with everyone I met there, but you can't deny what you see with your own eyes. <BR/><BR/>The people in the West Bank and Gaza are human beings loved by God and they are suffering. This suffering of course has been caused by their own corrupt leaders and other Arab nations but also by Israel. <BR/><BR/> A father who loves his child would not be silent if his child was doing wrong. That is not love. In the same way it doesn't mean that I love Israel any less to state that some of the things they are doing is wrong.<BR/><BR/>Thanks again for taking the time to comment here. <BR/><BR/>JJ-Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02036628587676158911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27637632.post-64555186772875212372008-01-05T16:19:00.000+00:002008-01-05T16:19:00.000+00:00Dear John.It is rather customary among young Chris...Dear John.<BR/>It is rather customary among young Christians to take a "controversial" position against "political Israel" in favour of "occupied and suffering Palestinians".<BR/><BR/>Remember that when we speak of occupation in a Palestinian context, there is legally speaking, no difference between the "Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories" and the "Zionist occupation of Palestine" which includes every square inch of Israel. The Jihadist struggle against the "occupation" aims at nothing less than destroying the Jewish state, and Christians are invited to take part.<BR/><BR/>In the real world, things are often quite complicated, and one easily falls prey to propaganda which is endemic, not only on the web, but even more so in mainstream media such as the BBC. Please take care so as not to become unknowingly a victim of vile Antisemitic propaganda, which you may not expect to hear from the BBC, but which is transmitted in various wrappings every day.<BR/><BR/>Here are a few weblinks which I hope may help to balance the impressions you have otherwise got. We should all feel pity for the suffering Palestinians, whether Christians or not, but preferably for the right reasons:<BR/><BR/>http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1196847287392&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull <BR/><BR/>http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2007/12/faith-of-our-fathers.html <BR/><BR/>http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31285 <BR/><BR/>http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/muslim-persecution-of-christians-in-palestine/ <BR/><BR/>http://mideastoutpost.com/archives/000414.html <BR/><BR/>http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/IK20Ak01.html <BR/><BR/>http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1195036609649&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull <BR/><BR/>http://www.acpr.org.il/ENGLISH-NATIV/02-issue/grief-2.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27637632.post-38925742328678003272007-12-31T14:19:00.000+00:002007-12-31T14:19:00.000+00:00Rhea i am well aware of that.My point was it was t...Rhea i am well aware of that.<BR/>My point was it was the jews who said crucify him.<BR/>Zech Ch12,Ch 13 and also Rev Ch 1 v 7, explain that it was the Jews who pierced him.<BR/>By no means do I regard my sin any less vile than the jews, but there is a special significance for them in the future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27637632.post-14728454537639822632007-12-27T00:59:00.000+00:002007-12-27T00:59:00.000+00:00Ralph, Israel didn't put Jesus on a cross anymore ...Ralph, Israel didn't put Jesus on a cross anymore than you or I did. It was OUR sins that got Him crucified.00https://www.blogger.com/profile/05537409519473805118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27637632.post-6906438294761877562007-12-20T19:05:00.000+00:002007-12-20T19:05:00.000+00:00For me Israel is important only in the prophtic, a...For me Israel is important only in the prophtic, and geographic sense.<BR/>Lets not forget it was them that put our Lord on the cross.<BR/>Having said that, Israel shows that a chosen nation can be blessed when obedient.<BR/>Unfortunatley evil exsists in ALL men's hearts.<BR/>There will be no mercy shown to the Jews, who reject Christ, and murder the innocent.<BR/>For me media is not trustworthy, the trouble's in this country at times were badly reported to global viewer's.<BR/>What faithful God we have that still keeps his promises to Israel, even though they do evil, in his sight. <BR/>The Jews are in for a shock, as they think the Law and their lineage saves them.<BR/>So for that matter are the Muslims.<BR/>Dress evil up in whatever outfit, be it communism, religeon, atheism.<BR/>When all is said and done it is still evil.<BR/>Contrast that with Christ and relationship with him, and all you can see is good.<BR/>Let's not get entangled with the mutations of evil but rather enjoy our good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27637632.post-83414942124924534832007-12-20T17:56:00.000+00:002007-12-20T17:56:00.000+00:00j-thanks for having the courage and self examinati...j-thanks for having the courage and self examination to be controversial. we would never get the chance to examine our own hearts and souls if we weren't presented with a different view than what we see from our wee country.<BR/><BR/>i love the film dead poets society when robin williams makes his students stand on their desks and take a different view of the things they see every day. <BR/><BR/>maybe it's time we did the same and viewed our lives through the lens of truth rather than culture.<BR/><BR/>keep challenging.<BR/><BR/>happy CHRISTmas.EFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15683285641388919980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27637632.post-74963710572531952482007-12-20T14:34:00.000+00:002007-12-20T14:34:00.000+00:00Hi John - I'm an occasional visitor here and enjoy...Hi John - I'm an occasional visitor here and enjoy your blog thoughts. I've also found myself in pretty controversial territory on this particular front because I question the uncritical position that many people take regarding political Israel. <BR/><BR/>God surely doesn't treat the un-Christlike actions of Israel any differently to the un-Christlike actions of any other state/person. So I suppose I might go a step further to say that I cannot support the actions of political Israel (the Christ-like response is to bless rather than persecute your enemies), while definitely calling for the descendants of Abraham to receive Jesus and the kingdom of God. Israel (like all of us) is called to speak up for the poor, broken and marginalised... indeed Isaiah, Jeremiah and lots of other Hebrew prophets seemed to suggest that that was the only way to seeing God's promises fulfilled.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, happy Christmas mate.<BR/><BR/>StephenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com